Chief Frank Leeb returns: Make yourself ‘difficult to injure, impossible to kill’

The FDNY chief of safety – and Better Every Shift’s first guest – returns a year later to talk leadership, safety and training

November 30, 2023 10:35 AM

To help Better Every Shift mark its milestone 1-year anniversary, our very first guest, FDNY Chief of Safety Frank Leeb, returns to the show to talk all things leadership, safety and training – including the critical mindset that “we owe it to our loved ones to be better every day to make sure that we are making ourselves difficult to injure and impossible to kill.”

Plus, we dig into all this:

What Leeb believes will keep fire chiefs up at night for the next 20 years
Key principles from Leeb’s new book, “Cornerstones of Leadership” – and even his favorite chapter
Leeb’s advice for giving crews just the right amount of information to get the job done
Firefighters’ training lineages and why “we need to have as many children as possible”
How to give crews both “tasty and nutritious” training and education (and why M&Ms should sponsor the podcast)
Leeb’s personal connection to encouraging bystander CPR education
Where Leeb sees himself in 1 year
A shared love of Tigger, naturally

Episode power quote: “I will never retire from the fire service because the one thing I know for sure is that I could live to be 150 years old, and I will never go to enough fires to satisfy my appetite to go to fires.”

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Previously on the Better Every Shift Podcast

Chief Bob Horton: ‘Wildfire is coming to a town near you’

The USFA’s new branch chief for wildfire policy urges listeners who consider themselves to be “structure fire only” to adjust their mindset – and their tactics

January 09, 2025 09:00 AM

‘It is never too late to start’: Kepra Jack details how to revive your cardiac health

The co-founder of HeartFit for Duty shares the common risk factors for cardiac and cancer challenges – and the simple exercise with the greatest impact

January 02, 2025 10:42 AM

2024 reflections + 2025 bold predictions

Recapping the themes that dominated events, headlines and kitchen table conversations, plus tips for how to thrive in 2025

December 26, 2024 12:06 PM

‘Work the problem’: Firefighter-survivalist shares ‘Naked & Afraid’ lessons

Ventura Fire Captain Fernando Calderon explains how the survival challenge has made him a better company officer

December 19, 2024 10:34 AM

‘Good, better, best’: Megan Lautz shares a realistic approach to FF nutrition

Lautz describes extreme diets as “trying to get to a second-story window without a ladder,” which she combats through pro tips for making better choices on scene and at home

December 12, 2024 10:17 AM